OU Chinaman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:44 am
Brisket wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:42 pm
OU Guy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:38 pm
No, thats what makes this play better! Stogner was only 7 yards deep on 3rd and 13. Only Farooq had a chance to get the first down with a perfect throw to keep him moving with a chance. At worst he comes up just short and we have 4th and 1 or 2. Stogner is slow as a turtle and had 0 chance at the 1st down.
I’ve mentioned this a few times but people only see Stogner open and assume thats the right play. Our QB has a winner mentality and made the best choice to move the chains, not the safe choice. Thats what I want in a QB.
Again, it was a great audible & throw. Definitely took some steel cajones to make the audible & then execute it. No question.
But I think you're looking at Stoops, who started the play in the right slot & came left in pre-snap motion. It looks like he was running a wheel route, but broke it off & was only at 7 yards. Stogner started in the right slot & ran an out-and-up/wheel route. He is streaking down the sideline at the top of the screen with no one anywhere close to him when JA released the ball.
Again - great audible & throw by JA. A bigger issue is - why was Stogner on the field for that play? Like you said, he's slow, and isn't much of a threat in the pass game. Wouldn't Gibson be a bigger threat & better option?
..I'm getting a kick out of you defending JA for even the slightest miscue he makes.
Think I understand now,...it's OK for you & anybody else to criticize someone you aren't particularly fond of (Gabriel)...but not OK for anybody to criticize a player you like & admire (JA).
There are 2 plays. The one he made to Farooq was the best play due to down amd distance and situation (game sealing first down).
Then there was another play which is the one Brisket was talking about. I post on phone 100% of the time and had the 2 plays mixed up and finally relaized we were talking 2 different plays. I posted the wrong clip and applied the commemts to wrong clip (they applied to the final game winnimg first down instead).
The play Brisket was talking about he is correct there is a better option. However, even making the lesser choice JA still made the pass. But film will sjow he had a better option for that pass.
I have no idea why you are making all these X vs Y statements. I mentioned in another thread and you never replied - JA and DG are at 2 completely different stages of their careers. When DG came in he was basically a seasoned vet matched up with his old OC again. My expectations were higher than if 2 years ago we had started a true freshman. I would grade a vet harder than a freshman 10 out of 10 times for any position.
The last true freshman QB to start a game for OU (not counting CW) was Cale Gundy in 1990. I expect some growing pains for Jackson.
Gabriel has come in and done an outstanding job. I hope he can start Friday because of how much he’s done for OU under difficult circumstances. He has nothing but my utmost respect. Based on what some teams are starting in NFL, he shoukd be able to latch onto a team and be drafted middle to later rounds. And I hope he does go and make it and does great.
Jackson on the other hand is our future. And having watched most of his senior year highlights this kid is cool under pressure. I think he will do great. He can make any pass but has 2 key things. He is calm under pressure and has no happy feet. And he can make the long pass. DG was not able to make the long pass most times it came up short and our wr came back for it or slowed down. And thats ok he was great in all other passes. He was a good runner too. Tough guy, got hard yards. Adding the long pass will help our offense, teams will play a bit more cautious not cheating up to the box. Its not downgradimg DG but showimg what more we will jave at our disposal. All OCs adapt to the qb and what they can do.
And lastly, I post a lot and say a lot. I have a lot of opinions. And because I post more than anyone else that means I’ll say way more things that others disagree with. I think that comes with the territory. I hope you don’t try and dog me all the years JA is QB. If so I’ll just ignore it lol. Love you like a brother and I had 4 of those and we fought all the time yet had each others back if others tried any funny business. I’m not a great or even good poster, just average and opinionated.
I’ll work on my opinions but no matter what position it is, if I say something good about one player then someone might take it as bad about another in the same position. I think thats whats happened here. Its impossible to not make some player look less good when praising others. And its all because I post too much. No hard feelings meant, love the posters here and the games we have in season and tbe great history too. I’ll be around to take all the bullets fired my way.