Over Reaction Sunday

[TropicalSooner]

Bottom post of the previous page:

YES!
Awesome!

[Fly]

I'm just glad that Jeff took the time to read and heed the advice given by the ST posters!

Got to be the best post of the day

Fly

[OU Guy]

Did you see the Fist bump from Pres Harroz as he left the field ?? Classic

[soonerindallas]

Fwiw i heard during the tv broadcast that the Big12 admitted they missed the PI on Stoops at the end of Bedlam…

Lot of good that does now. Those guys are a piece of work.

[inconnu]

Regarding redshirting Arnold:

Isn't the rule now for eligibility for pro(NFL) football, a player must be on a college team for 3 years, in order to go pro? That is, you don't have to play for 3 years, but just be on a team, any team, anywhere. If a player is to redshirt, it still counts as a year of college football, correct? So, even if Arnold redshirts, after 2 more years on OU's team, or any college team, he can declare for the draft, or tryout for the pros the next year.

If what I said is correct, why would a coach want to redshirt anyone?

[RussC]

Regarding redshirting Arnold:

Isn't the rule now for eligibility for pro(NFL) football, a player must be on a college team for 3 years, in order to go pro? That is, you don't have to play for 3 years, but just be on a team, any team, anywhere. If a player is to redshirt, it still counts as a year of college football, correct? So, even if Arnold redshirts, after 2 more years on OU's team, or any college team, he can declare for the draft, or tryout for the pros the next year.

If what I said is correct, why would a coach want to redshirt anyone?

I don’t have an answer for you last question but Draft Kings has this summary:

“In order to be eligible to enter the NFL Draft, a prospect must have been three years removed from high school and have used their college eligibility prior to the start of the next college football season. Underclassmen and players that have graduated early may request the league’s approval to enter the draft early.”

[Zgeo]

With NIL players are not as quick to go NFL. Look at all the 5 or 6 year QBs in college…….. a good high profile college QB can make a ton of NFL money. Also more experienced QBs just do better in the NFL. Also there are only a handful of real openings for a QB in the NFL each season, it is more likely a player becomes a back up waiting for an injury or contract dispute to give him an opportunity…..



As far as JA lots have said he prefers a redshirt…… he will have his day when then team is sorted out, we are almost there…..more 5 stars next season so it is all looking good…..

[pippen]

I was there BTW the SEC chants were purely to piss off the refs .... Which I participated in as soon as I saw much it got under their skin......

Yes, we did too, for the same reason. One of the folks in our section suggested we go down to the field and "explain" to the refs what unsportsmanlike conduct really looked like. That was utterly, pathetically obvious and obnoxious crooked officiating all night long.

[pippen]

I'm just glad that Jeff took the time to read and heed the advice given by the ST posters!

Well, I think there was only one jet sweep (and it actually worked) and only two or three WR screens (that didn't). I'll guarantee he knew his job was on the line. There was simply no excuse for the play-calling since Dallas other than arrogance, stupidity, laziness or taking the points. He gets no passes for finally doing what he is paid to do. There's no more forgiveness left in me for losing to inferior teams.

[Fly]

You dammed when you do & dammed when you don,t.

Oh my! Fly

[soonershok]

I'm just glad that Jeff took the time to read and heed the advice given by the ST posters!

Well, I think there was only one jet sweep (and it actually worked) and only two or three WR screens (that didn't). I'll guarantee he knew his job was on the line. There was simply no excuse for the play-calling since Dallas other than arrogance, stupidity, laziness or taking the points. He gets no passes for finally doing what he is paid to do. There's no more forgiveness left in me for losing to inferior teams.

I feel EXACTLY the same way.

[MontOUfan]

These teams are not so "inferior" that you can turn the ball over 6 times and have the number of penalties OU did and expect to be very successful. There is a very thin line between execution and breakdown in football. I agree that Sawchuk is getting back to his true running form, but there were at least two plays (including the 3rd TD to Stoops) that were a whisker from being blown-up because he whiffed on his pass-pro block. I am amused at how Lebby can go from genius to idiot and back to genius because of how players perform.

[soonershok]

These teams are not so "inferior" that you can turn the ball over 6 times and have the number of penalties OU did and expect to be very successful. There is a very thin line between execution and breakdown in football. I agree that Sawchuk is getting back to his true running form, but there were at least two plays (including the 3rd TD to Stoops) that were a whisker from being blown-up because he whiffed on his pass-pro block. I am amused at how Lebby can go from genius to idiot and back to genius because of how players perform.

I agree you can't turn the ball over and expect to win most of the time. However I do NOT believe the last three games lack of success on offense was because of player execution. The play calling has been the worst I've seen. Consistently calling routes behind the line of scrimmage and the exact same running play over and over. It's like he "knows" this play will work so he keeps running it over and over again expecting different results. He called a MUCH different game yesterday as compared to those games. I don't believe the players are just suddenly performing better like you apparently do. Putting players in better positions and calling plays utilizing defensive weaknesses are more likely what is occurring.

[Gandalf]

One more thing I had is we need to fix the punt return catches. Two fumbles and almost one is unacceptable for any college team in a season, let alone a game.

Thankfully one was recovered by the returner.

[RussC]

These teams are not so "inferior" that you can turn the ball over 6 times and have the number of penalties OU did and expect to be very successful. There is a very thin line between execution and breakdown in football. I agree that Sawchuk is getting back to his true running form, but there were at least two plays (including the 3rd TD to Stoops) that were a whisker from being blown-up because he whiffed on his pass-pro block. I am amused at how Lebby can go from genius to idiot and back to genius because of how players perform.

I agree you can't turn the ball over and expect to win most of the time. However I do NOT believe the last three games lack of success on offense was because of player execution. The play calling has been the worst I've seen. Consistently calling routes behind the line of scrimmage and the exact same running play over and over. It's like he "knows" this play will work so he keeps running it over and over again expecting different results. He called a MUCH different game yesterday as compared to those games. I don't believe the players are just suddenly performing better like you apparently do. Putting players in better positions and calling plays utilizing defensive weaknesses are more likely what is occurring.

Lebby is only in his second year of being fully in charge of play calling. I’m not giving him a pass, nor am I calling for his job at this time.

[Fly]

Russ I can agree with that. I never argue with anyone. I look at forms as this as discussion & everyone has there opinion. Are we alway
Right? I,m not by any means. But some will never omit they were, just the way some are. There is usually truth on both sides. All I
ask is let’s trust in coach BV decisions & give this some rest. I just can not understand what good comes from negativity each week.
Even when we win, to continue to drive a point across. I saw a lot of negative with QB play Saturday. But I also saw a lot of great play also. No one is perfect but this is a team sport. You win as a team & you lose as a team. If the discussion was about a wrestling It
Is a whole different topic.

JMOHOP Fly