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I think it is probably "percentage based". something like the Top 5% or something like is a 5-star. As you can see the first 14 players are 5-star. Then the next 86 players are all 4-star. I guess the next group fo players are 3-star.....101 to ???.
Yes, we discuss rankings on here, we also discuss their composition, flaws, and the various ranking services, among other things, but because you haven't seen those discussions, assume what you will.
Bixby_Sooner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:11 amYes, we discuss rankings on here, we also discuss their composition, flaws, and the various ranking services, among other things, but because you haven't seen those discussions, assume what you will.
If it really bothers you that much, by all means, don't let us hold you back because of our flaws, you are more than welcome to go find another message board that is up to your lofty standards.
Other than blog, vlog, or MB related polls, I know Extra Inning Softball, Perfect Game and ESPN are 3 that are likely the least biased polls for HS players. There are probably others but those 3 are likely the best known. I think the National Fastpitch Coaches Association may have one as well, but can't confirm. OUB56A or Sooner Traveler may have more information on this.
It really isn’t that hard - just don’t be a jerk.navier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:57 amBixby_Sooner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:11 amYes, we discuss rankings on here, we also discuss their composition, flaws, and the various ranking services, among other things, but because you haven't seen those discussions, assume what you will.
If it really bothers you that much, by all means, don't let us hold you back because of our flaws, you are more than welcome to go find another message board that is up to your lofty standards.
I would add Softball America/On3 and D! Softball to that list.Bixby_Sooner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:07 pmOther than blog, vlog, or MB related polls, I know Extra Inning Softball, Perfect Game and ESPN are 3 that are likely the least biased polls for HS players. There are probably others but those 3 are likely the best known. I think the National Fastpitch Coaches Association may have one as well, but can't confirm. OUB56A or Sooner Traveler may have more information on this.
Did you ever look up the HS BA of kids who are in OU’s lineup?OUBeliever56A wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:33 amI would add Softball America/On3 and D! Softball to that list.Bixby_Sooner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:07 pmOther than blog, vlog, or MB related polls, I know Extra Inning Softball, Perfect Game and ESPN are 3 that are likely the least biased polls for HS players. There are probably others but those 3 are likely the best known. I think the National Fastpitch Coaches Association may have one as well, but can't confirm. OUB56A or Sooner Traveler may have more information on this.
IF you look at a corss section of the rankings, you can get a feel for the players and where they sit compared to other players. Of course nothing is 100%.
The only comment I would make is that players that are not able to hit the ball out of the park (maybe call them slappers) are overrated to me. The game has changed. Hitting .500+ slapping in high schoool ball or summer ball does say you have talent. But give me sseveral players that hits .375 and hits 12+ HRs in high school and summer ball and I can beat a team of slappers that hit .500+ and a few doubles all season long.
Admitedly, I do not 'chase' high school stats. I do not know the competition level of many high school players so their stats do not mean much to me. If you are really good in high school is it good, but you could be above average in a tough league in CA, AZ, TX or FLA and it mean just as much. I have enough to do with the volume of posting that I do across the sepctrum of OU Sports. I find the summer stats do mean something though. If they are playing in 18U ball they mean more than if they are playing in 16U.navier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:12 amDid you ever look up the HS BA of kids who are in OU’s lineup?OUBeliever56A wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:33 amI would add Softball America/On3 and D! Softball to that list.Bixby_Sooner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:07 pm
Other than blog, vlog, or MB related polls, I know Extra Inning Softball, Perfect Game and ESPN are 3 that are likely the least biased polls for HS players. There are probably others but those 3 are likely the best known. I think the National Fastpitch Coaches Association may have one as well, but can't confirm. OUB56A or Sooner Traveler may have more information on this.
IF you look at a corss section of the rankings, you can get a feel for the players and where they sit compared to other players. Of course nothing is 100%.
The only comment I would make is that players that are not able to hit the ball out of the park (maybe call them slappers) are overrated to me. The game has changed. Hitting .500+ slapping in high schoool ball or summer ball does say you have talent. But give me several players that hits .375 and hits 12+ HRs in high school and summer ball and I can beat a team of slappers that hit .500+ and a few doubles all season long.
My kid has hit like absolute garbage this HS season and is hitting .375 (granted she doesn’t have 12+ HR)
Good post,I agree with most of it. At the end of the dayOUBeliever56A wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:42 amAdmitedly, I do not 'chase' high school stats. I do not know the competition level of many high school players so their stats do not mean much to me. If you are really good in high school is it good, but you could be above average in a tough league in CA, AZ, TX or FLA and it mean just as much. I have enough to do with the volume of posting that I do across the sepctrum of OU Sports. I find the summer stats do mean something though. If they are playing in 18U ball they mean more than if they are playing in 16U.navier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:12 amDid you ever look up the HS BA of kids who are in OU’s lineup?OUBeliever56A wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:33 am
I would add Softball America/On3 and D! Softball to that list.
IF you look at a corss section of the rankings, you can get a feel for the players and where they sit compared to other players. Of course nothing is 100%.
The only comment I would make is that players that are not able to hit the ball out of the park (maybe call them slappers) are overrated to me. The game has changed. Hitting .500+ slapping in high schoool ball or summer ball does say you have talent. But give me several players that hits .375 and hits 12+ HRs in high school and summer ball and I can beat a team of slappers that hit .500+ and a few doubles all season long.
My kid has hit like absolute garbage this HS season and is hitting .375 (granted she doesn’t have 12+ HR)
I think I also understand that today, OU does not recruit based upon traditional stats. They are very much into the analytical numbers and they look for specific things. Maybe they have been there for awhile. If you look just two years back, the Class of 2024 (the freshman now) really only had three players highly ranked in the Top 10 (Lowry, Hicks and Barker), but after two years they were all in the Top 80 players (EIS). Garcia who was unranked when OU recruited her was in th top 30 players. By SA, a 4th player was in the top players as Milloy was ranked.
It is interesting that Garcia was perhaps the most impressive freshman position player in the first Dattle Series game.
I just try to share data and thoughts. I try to let the readers and fellow posters decide what to think about things. I try hard....to help Sooner fans be informed.
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